Science is a dwarf in front of astrology, says BJP MP in parliament.

[Juggernautjatt]

The controversy over Sadhvi Niranjan Jyoti's statements is still to die down but BJP MP and former chief minister of Uttarakhand Ramesh Pokhriyal Nishank has stirred up a fresh one by claiming in Parliament that astrology is a superior form of science dwarfing everything else.

"All streams of science are dwarfed in stature when compared with the science of astrology. Astrology is the number one science for the entire world," he said.

The minister's statments came during a debate in the Lok Sabha on a legislation to give more powers to the School of Planning and Architecture.

During the debate, Pokhriyal also claimed that nuclear tests are not new to India. According to Pokhriyal, in ancient India sage Kanad conducted the first nuclear test.

The Indian Express quoted the BJP MLA as saying:

"Lakhs of years ago, Sage Kanad had conducted a nuclear test. Our knowledge and science do not lack anything."

Pokhriyal also revisited Prime Minister Narendra Modi's statement on genetic science's existence in ancient India and agreed with it.

"People raised questions on Modiji’s comments on Ganesh’s surgery. It was actually a surgery. The science or knowledge to transplant a severed head existed only in India," Pokhriyal said during the debate in Lok Sabha, reported Zee News .

The minister was not only criticized for his comments which undermined science but members of Left, Congress and Trinamool Congress came down heavily on the former CM.

A report in the NDTV quoted Congress MP Gaurav Gogoi as saying,"It is very important in our current environment that we promote scientific temper in education. We are seeing that this is gradually being eroded. Science is being mixed with religion and mythology. We must accord due respect and understand that there is a separation that exists."

Trinamool Congress MP Saugata Roy criticised the BJP MP and also took the opportunity to criticise HRD minister Smriti Irani for visiting an astrologer in Rajasthan recently.

While the opposition and other parties were up in arms against the statement made by Pokhriyal, the BJP MP stuck to his stand and said there should be a proper discussion on the subject and astrology "should get the respect it deserves."

BJP's latest gem: Science will always be dwarfed by astrology, says MP Pokhriyal
In Parliament, BJP MP Ramesh Pokhriyal Says 'Science a Pygmy Compared to Astrology'
Astrology is above science, says BJP MP Nishank - The Hindu

 

[Juggernautjatt]

Ab ki bar Stone Age sarkar.

 

[SarthakGanguly]

I will vote for Modi again. Abki bar bhi yahi sarkar.

The MP was engaging in a debate. He was supposed to put forth his POV and justify it. If we are not allowed to have faith, let's just ban Hinduism/faith and end this charade.

 

[Juggernautjatt]

I will vote for Modi again. Abki bar bhi yahi sarkar.

The MP was engaging in a debate. He was supposed to put forth his POV and justify it. If we are not allowed to have faith, let's just ban Hinduism/faith and end this charade.

Hinduism has nothing to do with this issue. There is no mention of nuclear test in ancient religious scriptures of sanatan dharma. No vedic scripture indicate anything against modern science.
Problem is they are indicating to ban modern science. (Although everyone of them is slave of modern scientific gadgets).

 

[SarthakGanguly]

Hinduism has nothing to do with this issue. There is no mention of nuclear test in ancient religious scriptures of sanatan dharma. No vedic scripture indicate anything against modern science.
Problem is they are indicating to ban modern science. (Although everyone of them is slave of modern scientific gadgets).

Not yet. My first post was an antidote.

Which authority can ban modern science? How is that even possible? There are people who believe the Earth is Flat. Who is questioning them for having a free will? Why can't even MPs have a personal life of their own? Has he passed a resolution for curtailing funding for research? Has he diluted the focus on science? Has he given a speech to the scientific community on their lack of worth? Or has he taken part in a debate highlighting what he feels?

That has nothing to do with being in the stone age. Primarily because there was no astrology in the Stone Age.

Check this out - Astrology: Science or superstition?

We don't have enough stuff to dismiss it entirely. Just like Homeopathy and Ayurveda this debate is going to last.

 

[帅的一匹]

seems that Modi is the only non imbecile one in BJP.

 

[jha]

Hehehe... These are going to be interesting 5 years. Leftists will keep squirming. Far too long traditional texts have been kept at bay and tagged as "myth". Bring them to mainstream and debate.

Only a delusional person can think of banning Modern Science in Modi-Sarkar. Modi was using Laptop when most of the leaders did not know what it is.

 

[thesolar65]

Not yet. My first post was an antidote.

Which authority can ban modern science? How is that even possible? There are people who believe the Earth is Flat. Who is questioning them for having a free will? Why can't even MPs have a personal life of their own? Has he passed a resolution for curtailing funding for research? Has he diluted the focus on science? Has he given a speech to the scientific community on their lack of worth? Or has he taken part in a debate highlighting what he feels?

That has nothing to do with being in the stone age. Primarily because there was no astrology in the Stone Age.

Check this out - Astrology: Science or superstition?

We don't have enough stuff to dismiss it entirely. Just like Homeopathy and Ayurveda this debate is going to last.

Yours this post will not be read by many. Even if they read it, will look other way.

 

[Juggernautjatt]

Not yet. My first post was an antidote.

Which authority can ban modern science? How is that even possible? There are people who believe the Earth is Flat. Who is questioning them for having a free will? Why can't even MPs have a personal life of their own? Has he passed a resolution for curtailing funding for research? Has he diluted the focus on science? Has he given a speech to the scientific community on their lack of worth? Or has he taken part in a debate highlighting what he feels?

That has nothing to do with being in the stone age. Primarily because there was no astrology in the Stone Age.

Check this out - Astrology: Science or superstition?

We don't have enough stuff to dismiss it entirely. Just like Homeopathy and Ayurveda this debate is going to last.

Antidote for what ?
On topic :
It is quite unfortunate for us that we have some bad mouthing MPs & we are trying to compete with China.
MPs have their personal life but he was speaking in parliament not in his house.
He hasn't diluted the focus on science but he tried his best & that too in parliament.
He has given this half-witted statement during a debate in the Lok Sabha on a legislation to give more powers to the School of Planning and Architecture.( Gosh... these type of guys are discussing our educational planning )

My bad about stone age. Here is new slogan ab ki bar Middle Age sarkar

 

[oFFbEAT]

...Problem is they are indicating to ban modern science.

I didn't find anywhere in your given links that they're indicating/wanting to ban modern science or saying anything against it....
They're just trying to say that, all the scientific knowledge and technology that exist now also existed back then......that may be debatable but what you're doing is, spreading propaganda.....so, their claim is more believable than yours...

 

[TejasMk3]

Problem is they are indicating to ban modern science. (Although everyone of them is slave of modern scientific gadgets).

No he didnt,
From your own OP

Our knowledge and science do not lack anything."

He is actually supporting science saying it is very much a part of our history, culture etc.

 

[Juggernautjatt]

Hehehe... These are going to be interesting 5 years. Leftists will keep squirming. Far too long traditional texts have been kept at bay and tagged as "myth". Bring them to mainstream and debate.

Only a delusional person can think of banning Modern Science in Modi-Sarkar. Modi was using Laptop when most of the leaders did not know what it is.

Kindly tell me which validated traditional text says that a nuclear test was conduted lakhs of years ago.
Although according to modern science humans are near about 70,000 years only.
And please also enlighten me with name of civilization that existed lakh years ago.

Yours this post will not be read by many. Even if they read it, will look other way.

Some guys are preferring not to read this news & looking other way .

 

[TejasMk3]

Kindly tell me which validated traditional text says that a nuclear test was conduted lakhs of years ago.
Although according to modern science humans are near about 70,000 years only.

No proof, or any real study has gone into it, since you just asked for descriptions, from older texts
Brahmastra - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Description of the effects:

“An incandescent column of smoke and flame as bright as ten thousand suns rose in all its splendor: it was an unknown weapon, an iron thunderbolt, a gigantic messenger of death, which reduced to ashes. The entire race of the Vrishnis and the Andhakas…the corpses were so burned as to be unrecognizable. Their hair and nails fell out; pottery broke without apparent cause, and the birds turned white. After a few hours all foodstuffs were infected…to escape from this fire the soldiers threw themselves in streams to wash themselves and their equipment.”

 

[Juggernautjatt]

No he didnt,
From your own OP


He is actually supporting science saying it is very much a part of our history, culture etc.

That was sarcasm given after the person I was replying said to ban Hinduism.

Please elaborate how he was supporting science by saying science is dwarf in front of astrology & we conducted a nuke test lakh years ago. ( dosen't he was challenging science as science says humans are 70 thousand years old & he says humans are existing from lakhs of years?)

 

[ozzy22]

Lots of crazy statements coming from BJP lately are these fringe elements from the party or are these views more widely held?